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> Cryptography Challenge: Discover Golem's real name, You can read the ancient texts at the end of the world!
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post May 18 2009, 05:34 PM
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Mmm, muscular. tongue.gif Golem looks really bulky as he was in Zenozoik. He's much better now. Although that robe would look really cool on him, like a pro wrestler. biggrin.gif Too bad we never saw him in actual combat. (Brutally crushing the Hunter's skull doesn't really count.)

When I first encountered him in the game, and he stood up from his throne, I was expecting (and kind of hoping) that I'd get to fight him. If I were in Ghat's shoes, I would have been really suspicious of him and throw a fireball at him as soon as he got up. That would have made an awesome boss fight, Ghat fighting Golem in a fireball-pong sort of torch duel where Golem eventually overpowers Ghat and makes clear he doesn't want to fight.

On the other hand, fighting a boss until he runs out of health and then losing to him after all a third time might have been a bit too much. dry.gif
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post May 18 2009, 06:16 PM
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Plain lovely. The 2003 concept looks brutal and throne golem does look a bit like a wrestler.

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post May 18 2009, 07:01 PM
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Wow too many muscles lol, i'm happy with the Kax Te you put in the game tongue.gif
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post May 18 2009, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (LTK @ May 18 2009, 04:34 PM) *
Mmm, muscular. tongue.gif Golem looks really bulky as he was in Zenozoik. He's much better now. Although that robe would look really cool on him, like a pro wrestler. biggrin.gif Too bad we never saw him in actual combat. (Brutally crushing the Hunter's skull doesn't really count.)

When I first encountered him in the game, and he stood up from his throne, I was expecting (and kind of hoping) that I'd get to fight him. If I were in Ghat's shoes, I would have been really suspicious of him and throw a fireball at him as soon as he got up. That would have made an awesome boss fight, Ghat fighting Golem in a fireball-pong sort of torch duel where Golem eventually overpowers Ghat and makes clear he doesn't want to fight.

On the other hand, fighting a boss until he runs out of health and then losing to him after all a third time might have been a bit too much. dry.gif


And you have to remember the special bond golem, Ghat, and deadra share. cool.gif
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post May 21 2009, 06:30 AM
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Edmundo, how far did you go as to add clues to the alphabet in the game? When I fought Therium I saw, surprisingly, a key hanging from his belt with the letter 'ch' on it. I thought the Family couldn't read or write?
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post May 21 2009, 03:22 PM
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QUOTE (LTK @ May 21 2009, 06:30 AM) *
Edmundo, how far did you go as to add clues to the alphabet in the game? When I fought Therium I saw, surprisingly, a key hanging from his belt with the letter 'ch' on it. I thought the Family couldn't read or write?


That key was a prop / asset from the old Zenoziok game. I guess when Andres put the key on the Therium's model, he didn't pay that much attention to that. So in this case, there is no hidden message.

Anyways... if you read about Halstedom in the 'Environments of ZC' blog post you will notice how it says: "Halstedom is a city which is a mix of an older, decayed city of monolithic proportions, with another more recent layer of trash-like constructions, like a collection of pieces of machines and sculptures which were put together without much regard for what those things were really created for."

Now... given how illiterate and uneducated the citizens of Halstedom are, it is hard to believe that the older monolithic city was built by them. It is then maybe possible to deduce that this older city was built by others who did know writing, and could have left behind things with writing on them. And the citizens of Halstedom would just carry them around without ever realizing this.
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post May 21 2009, 05:07 PM
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Heck yeah even in the real world, some people fancy putting kanjis here and there without understandin' what they mean.


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post May 21 2009, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE (Carlos Bordeu @ May 21 2009, 09:22 PM) *
That key was a prop / asset from the old Zenoziok game. I guess when Andres put the key on the Therium's model, he didn't pay that much attention to that. So in this case, there is no hidden message.

Anyways... if you read about Halstedom in the 'Environments of ZC' blog post you will notice how it says: "Halstedom is a city which is a mix of an older, decayed city of monolithic proportions, with another more recent layer of trash-like constructions, like a collection of pieces of machines and sculptures which were put together without much regard for what those things were really created for."

Now... given how illiterate and uneducated the citizens of Halstedom are, it is hard to believe that the older monolithic city was built by them. It is then maybe possible to deduce that this older city was built by others who did know writing, and could have left behind things with writing on them. And the citizens of Halstedom would just carry them around without ever realizing this.


Ohh, I didn't know that. Very interesting! I'm going to read that post right now.

So, the skull tower and the half-buried, big metal boxes in the desert belong to the same civilization? They, too, don't seem to belong there. The symbol on the metal box looks like the head of one of those rodent-men of the Northern Gate Gang. Was their species the one who built the city?
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post May 22 2009, 04:37 PM
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Well, it was a wild and crazy ride while it lasted.

Now, are there any clues as to what Father-Mother's real name is?
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post May 23 2009, 04:54 AM
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QUOTE (Golden Yak @ May 22 2009, 03:37 PM) *
Well, it was a wild and crazy ride while it lasted.

Now, are there any clues as to what Father-Mother's real name is?


Perhaps father-Mother is simply his name.
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post May 23 2009, 06:59 AM
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QUOTE (hearty0 @ May 23 2009, 10:54 AM) *
Perhaps father-Mother is simply his name.


Nah, he couldn't have been born Father-Mother, could he? tongue.gif Maybe we'll find out in the sequel.
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post Jun 21 2009, 11:03 PM
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Wow.

I think these kind of little extras make this game different than others. It just shows how you guys really put love into your work (at least, that's how I see it).

Anyway, grats to the community for finding out and grats/thanks to you guys at ACE and especially Andres for being so awesome.
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post Jun 22 2009, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE (Guest_Galdi_* @ Jun 21 2009, 11:03 PM) *
...and especially Andres for being so awesome.


Hahaha! Why me? Edmundo invented the Cryptography stuff. smile.gif
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post Jun 22 2009, 11:22 AM
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Where can I find a completely complete legend with the alphabet? Ty
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post Jun 22 2009, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE (PetzI @ Jun 22 2009, 11:22 AM) *
Where can I find a completely complete legend with the alphabet? Ty



I think it was posted before. Anyways, here's the complete legenda from the SUF:

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post Jun 22 2009, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (Andres Bordeu @ Jun 22 2009, 09:55 AM) *
Hahaha! Why me? Edmundo invented the Cryptography stuff. smile.gif


Oh, right... Kak!

I was actually refering to Edmundo, but all of you guys deserve it so keep the title if you want tongue.gif
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post Jun 24 2009, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE (Andres Bordeu @ Jun 22 2009, 05:51 PM) *
I think it was posted before. Anyways, here's the complete legenda from the SUF:



Since some of the letters were bigger and had a green "check" symbol next to them, I assumed that was incomplete.
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post Jul 10 2009, 02:24 AM
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Just want to let you guys know that I was debating buying this game or not. After finding out how rich the story is and the intricacy of what you guys have planned with this project, I couldn't resist and I'm DLing it right now. Just thinking about this text is making my imagination run wild!!! OMFG 55%!!!!!! =)
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post Jul 10 2009, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE (Guest @ Jul 10 2009, 02:24 AM) *
Just want to let you guys know that I was debating buying this game or not. After finding out how rich the story is and the intricacy of what you guys have planned with this project, I couldn't resist and I'm DLing it right now. Just thinking about this text is making my imagination run wild!!! OMFG 55%!!!!!! =)


Well, the game is a fighting game, not a puzzle game. The cryptography thing is not an essential part of the experience. (It's more like an easter egg). Hope you enjoy the game!
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post Jul 25 2009, 07:27 AM
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Now that we know Kax-Teh is his real name, does this mean anything in Latin or greek (or something similar)?


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