Will Zeno Clash ever get ported over to Impulse? Options

[udm]

I am liking Steam less these days for obvious reasons. In fact, for privacy issues, I am considering closing my Steam account - I don't mind not playing Valve games anymore since (in my very humble and personal opinion) the quality of its games is declining, but that's another issue entirely. My main question: will ZC ever get ported to Impulse? I understand it's on D2D, but it requires Steam for activation. Can we get ZC on Impulse, or at least ZC2, and not requiring Steam at all?

[Gentleman]

I haven't heard of Impulse, so I guess that not many other people have either. I'm not saying it won't happen, I just think that it's unlikely.

[Carlos Bordeu]

I am liking Steam less these days for obvious reasons. In fact, for privacy issues, I am considering closing my Steam account - I don't mind not playing Valve games anymore since (in my very humble and personal opinion) the quality of its games is declining, but that's another issue entirely. My main question: will ZC ever get ported to Impulse? I understand it's on D2D, but it requires Steam for activation. Can we get ZC on Impulse, or at least ZC2, and not requiring Steam at all?

Can't say about ZC2... but for ZC1 the answer is no. ZC1 is too heavily tied to Steam. You have to remember that the game is running on Source.

The best place you will probably find the game without Steam (if all goes well) is on XBLA.

[*VeLeRoN*]

I am liking Steam less these days for obvious reasons. In fact, for privacy issues, I am considering closing my Steam account

If I may ask, what issues are you talking about?

[Gentleman]

Privacy issues = Steam community?

[udm]

I haven't heard of Impulse, so I guess that not many other people have either. I'm not saying it won't happen, I just think that it's unlikely.

Sorry you haven't heard of it. Impulse isn't as big as Steam, but it's still quite well known on the Internet.

About issues, there are many to be concerned about. One of them is subjecting your account to the chance of being banned for no reason at all. This issue seems to be moving further from being just an occasional isolated case. There are other reasons to be concerned about, this is just one of several.

Then there are misc. issues that annoy me, like having Steam take up additional resources and other not-so-minor-but-not-major-either inconveniences.

Anyway Carlos thanks for clarifying

[*VeLeRoN*]

One of them is subjecting your account to the chance of being banned for no reason at all.

Could you please elaborate on this?

[udm]

Steam's anti-fraudulent scanning thingamajig seems to be going ape shit over the last few months. I've known a few people who've had their Steam accounts banned for no reason. They did manage to get their accounts unbanned, but I frown on this sort of pervasiveness, that despite all that's being said by Valve about being anti-DRM, Steam is just another way to exert control over a user.

Weed out the evil, taking a few good plants along with it - it's a necessary evil I agree, but count me out of this ecology.

[*VeLeRoN*]

I've known a few people who've had their Steam accounts banned for no reason. They did manage to get their accounts unbanned

Again, I'm trying to understand what you are saying. When they contacted Steam billing and support the answer was we banned you for no reason?

And what's banned? Steam accounts can't be "banned".

[udm]

Yes they can. Disabled accounts; banned from logging in etc.

-added-

It's not a general representation at all, but if it can happen, then it will happen

[Draken]

Never heard of impulse, and I browsed their games now... they have a very very limited selection and the whole thing seems very amateurish IMO.

Here's one thing about Steam... You can be sure it will be here in 10 years, but all those other micro sites/experiments... not so sure. There is worse than having 0.0003% chance of getting your account banned randomly, especially when you can get it back by contacting support.

[Gentleman]

The only reason you can get your account banned, is if you hack, or someone hacks your account.

[weclock]

I was actually the guy who had my account disabled, and I didn't hack, or have my account hacked.
Hacking only nets you a vac ban which doesn't disable access to your accounts.

I have a few ideas as to what might be legit reasons for them to disable me, but they're really weak.

For example, I bought a game on two different accounts with my same card, but I retain ownership of both accounts, there is more than one gamer in my house.

The other would be that I had received some gifts that weren't legit, however I've had that happen in the past and they just removed the games from my list.

but without any explanation from valve for these two possible, but very weak reasons, I can only assume they disabled me because they're dicks. I've had that account for over 5 years.

Please, Zeno Clash devs, I am a huge fan of the game, please allow us access to it other than thru steam or else I will not buy the product, or may even possibly pirate it.

And I know I just registered, but I have proof that I'm not some lame ass puppet account
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/show...ad.php?t=856965

That's me, the guy who suggested the rubix cube
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/show...ad.php?t=844916
that's me the guy who got the intro video off the directory in the preload before the game came out and uploaded it to wegame.

I was a big steam fan until my account got disabled for no reason and for no explainable reason. I wasn't committing any fraud, I used valid cards and accounts that were in my name, and I got my account back. But it made me realize that steam is a glorified rental service, I wouldn't use steam if you paid me to now. I refuse to buy any more games through steam at all, because I like owning my games. I will buy through Impulse, Gamersgate, and GOG.

Never heard of impulse, and I browsed their games now... they have a very very limited selection and the whole thing seems very amateurish IMO.

Here's one thing about Steam... You can be sure it will be here in 10 years, but all those other micro sites/experiments... not so sure. There is worse than having 0.0003% chance of getting your account banned randomly, especially when you can get it back by contacting support.

Steam was "amateurish" when it came out too, Impulse is fairly new. One thing is for sure, Stardock is well known for doing windows blinds, and etc, and they are well known for business products too.

back in 2000, steam was just as shaky as anything, and I didn't know if it was going to stick around or not, but I bought games from them because I wanted to play them.

At least with Impulse you don't have to be signed into the client to play your games, you don't even have to have impulse installed after you install the games.

So even if impulse disappears, you will still have your games, with Steam there is no promise of that (at least not in the TOS).

[Carlos Bordeu]

Please, Zeno Clash devs, I am a huge fan of the game, please allow us access to it other than thru steam

Unfortunately we won't be porting the game to other digital distribution systems for PC. My reccomendation is that if you dislike Steam that much, that you wait for the XBLA version.

[weclock]

Unfortunately we won't be porting the game to other digital distribution systems for PC. My reccomendation is that if you dislike Steam that much, that you wait for the XBLA version.

I meant for sequels, I already bought the game through steam, but thanks.

[tonjohn]

Hello udm,

I am sorry to hear that you are not satisfied with Steam. I would appreciate it if you could email me your feedback at burton at valvesoftware.com.

Accounts are not just randomly disabled. The majority of accounts disabled are done for the protection of the user (similar to a bank suspending your account to protect you from a theif/fraud/etc.). Once the user contacts support with the appropriate information, the account is returned. The amount of accounts that get hijacked and/or disabled is an extremely small percentage of the total userbase.

To reduce the risk of your account being compromised, I highly recommend that all users verify their email address and read our Account Security Recommendations.

[udm]

Hello udm,

I am sorry to hear that you are not satisfied with Steam. I would appreciate it if you could email me your feedback at burton at valvesoftware.com.

Accounts are not just randomly disabled. The majority of accounts disabled are done for the protection of the user (similar to a bank suspending your account to protect you from a theif/fraud/etc.). Once the user contacts support with the appropriate information, the account is returned. The amount of accounts that get hijacked and/or disabled is an extremely small percentage of the total userbase.

To reduce the risk of your account being compromised, I highly recommend that all users verify their email address and read our Account Security Recommendations.

Well this came as a surprise. Thanks for coming forth, but I think you know what I mean when I say my main concern is primarily the disabling of accounts as a result of false positives. You guys may see it as "protection"; I see it as an intrusion of privacy. I know it is a "necessary evil" (in my own words), but this I can do without. Until the day I am able to run my games independently of Steam, without having to open Steam, or having to log in constantly to play online, my personal preferences of steam won't be going anywhere higher I think. Of course, I am just an individual amongst many, and my opinion is my own and probably won't change anything, but that's what forums are for I guess.

I could open up a whole can of questions that would probably tread on nondisclosure information grounds, but I don't see a point to that, since it'll probably just make your life more difficult, and it'll be a waste of everyone's time. That being said, I do appreciate your good intentions of being forthcoming and offering tech assistance. Hats off to you bro for taking one step further with your job

[Guest_Tom Jane_*]

Steam is such a well functioning platform, I have to question your true motives.

(I and my friends would not have bought it had it not been on Steam)

Steam doesn't ban you for no reason, anyone who says this is trying to use six steam or some other method of piracy or illegitimate client.

I've been using Steam since it released and over the years it has become a nearly flawless platform. I mod games, I buy games, I switch between my 4 PCs, installed my games dozens of times as i switched my OS. Never have I had any problems with Steam or Valve "randomly banning".

Be logical, what good business would it be to opt out their customers by banning them?

[Guest_Pokester_*]

Are you blind? Did you even read the rest of the posts in this thread, especially those by OP and weclock?