Somebody call for a doctor... or an airstrike... or better a tactical nuke..., Anything will do, just stop this from spreading Options

[Reianor]

I've seen zombies I've seen fake president's true form in ff8, I've seen sumoists, I've seen fat imps in disciples 2, those summoists most likely evolved from, I've seen lots of other game and movie monsters, I just can't remember now. But all those even pictured together in most ugly poses and fasion still look like a bunch of little pink furry & fluffy bunnies sitting on something just as furry and fluffy as they are, in comparison to what u guys got on your screenshots and probably in your minds.

No realy this isn't just ugly, this is sick and disgusting. Even the main caracter probably shatters each mirror he comes across into million pieces by his pressense alone. Well yes he's not even nearly as disgusting as most of other "children", still no one'd probably ever want to even date one like him even if there's only two living beings left in entire univese, and they both look like him and one of them is drunk so much that she cant feel her own nose (in case she even has a nose). And here I was, thinking that original Max Pain's face wasn't beautiful (my excuses to one of that game developers since it's his actual face).

Now take a look at those "creatures" that can be seen on this screenshot. If I ever see anything more disgusting, I'll be shure to let u know, so that u could add that in an "epic" expantion... I can see the slogan "Even more ugly and twisted than original game. No realy!!! there can be even more ugly and twisted than original game." U know before I came to this forum I'd never think that a living being can set this abomination of all thing that can be looked at without vomiting, as one's avatar.

Now this one is serious - u'd realy better print it's picture on the front side of the disk box when or rather IF this "game" hits the stores and write below in big red letters next to a huge warning sign that most creatures in this game are of the same stile like this monstrosity (damn i'm running out of words), and the rest of 'em aren't much better, so that people know WHAT the disc contains. But be shure not to print it out to big, in order to prevent mass heart attacks, shop closings, and vomiting. I used "if" before cause I REALLY hope that some sane game critic achieves this game's getting censored. Seriously such "pictures" shouldn't be allowed to see public and ever more so get to child's eye. U know, if people new WHAT this game features the only way of getting this into hands of a sane person would be giving away free copies, and even then u'd have to paint the box like that of some other game and hide the disc inside REALLY well.

U should realy make an alternative ending in which main character can mary that mother-father-sister-brother-all-just-****ing-one-another (sory can't realy describe that creature in any different manner, well i could but that would go against common sense, not that my description is far away from what that "thing" realy is), to make even more disgusting "children" like the one i denoted for expantion. That would realy suit the game's stile, make it even more disgusting, and probably amuse and aplease it's true fans.(I can't realy see anyting but love for all-things-disgusting, that could possibly interest a human being in such a game) What are u trying to achive by creating this game? to let a player see his dinner on his keyboard?

I don't know who's your art designer but u'd beter take him to a doctor, oh, and make shure that unfortunate doctor has realy strong nerves so that he woun't need a doctor himself after he sees some pictures, well he's going to anyway but at least this way it may be possible to cure him ,i mean the doctor, the first one cause the second one may need to be cured aswell, in case the first one shows him some pictures, damn this may not be the best idea after all, cause we may need those doctors sane (and many more, depending on how wild will be the pictures's spreading speed), but atleast this way the guy will be taken to apropriate place, unless he manages show sanitars that'll come for him some pictures aswell.

p.s (yes I almost finished) Shure u can ban me and delete this thread but that woun't make the game any more apealing then it is (don't get me wrong is IS NOT by any means apealing). U know I'm not normaly into trolling flaming and other ofensive forum activities, i'm usualy as calm and quite as a pussycat, but seeing this I couldn't stay silent. I'm not going to rain any more offence on u, but realy take or atleast consider a few advices:

-at the very least change main character face, it's ugly, yes i know he's a mutant (or monster or however u name this type of creature) but even those can be made reletively attractive, i don't mean a face of a super model, but this artificial ugliness like paint on his face (or is that hair? i dont quite know) cryes for removal.

-remodel those "children" or atleast some of them, those are realy repulsive.

-Get some new avatars. This is both ment for custom avatars from in-game creatures and forum's default avatar collection. I don't know about the rest of the worrld but i'd rather look at a guy showing me a rude gesture then at those. And dont get me wrong i don't like avatars with guys with rude gestures. For some reason those are considered offensive, while disgusting creatures aren't (I'm trying not to offend anyone in this part of post but those are truly disgusting and revolting even for a lot's-o-monsters-have-been-seen gamer, especialy the one from the screenshot I posted a link to, not that it's hard to find "it" on this site just wanted to be shure u know what i'm talking about), it's good that u aren't forced to chose one of those avatars or I wouldn't be posting here now for shure.

-Realy go see a doctor , your imagination is acting wild on u creating all those things a normal person woun't look at for more than half a second, i'm usualy against unification of minds and dont think that all people should think alike, different maner of thinking is on contrary good, that's what make's one an individuality, but some strays should realy be avoided and this is one of them.This also concerns those people posting "wow! i like those screens". Something went terribly wrong in your mind. I know how offensive those "go see a doctor" expressions sound but i realy don't mean to insult u, just don't let your mind play such tricks on u. (but be shure not to show'im pictures thou , sorry just couldn't hold myself, but this is a joke related to previouse parts of this post rather then to their sanity)

U're probably thinking now "to hell with u guy (or troll depends on how deep u took the offence), we're making game, not u", but don't forget that a good game is a combination of great (other types just don't make it nowadays) base idea of creators and the prefference of gamers, besides you've got to sell it to somebody atleast to cover your expences and feed your familyes (or, if not present, just yourselves) and those somebody are gamers.

Besides if u're doing something unethical and immoral (well if that would be just monsters, like in tons of other games, i'd consider that normal, not uethical or immoral, and just ignore that fact, cause only weak-psyched people are affected by those,and they should be kept from such games independently from other gamers, but THIS is unethical immoral revolting and disgusting all-at-once) just for your personal use it's acceptible (thou not preferrable) but if u're trying to present it to public, and that's what u're trying to do, that's not acceptible and becomes a matter of the public. Well, a single game could just pass without much impact, but let it be, and soon others will pop up, and before u know it humanity's morale and ethic will take a severe hit. I'm not implying that people should visit musems, read classics and such (i'm not even into it myself) but there's a level beyound wich no human should fall and those "images" ARE beyound.

Don't tell me that that father-mother-u-know-how-I-called-it-earlyer-creature is anywhere near moral, and NO i'm not talking about it's morale as a person, there's lot's of low-moral freaks all around game industry and television and books (i'm talking about characters here, not actors developers and writers), i'm talking about the fact that such a revolting abomination is being presented to player, ah what's there to hide, this entire game is one big collection of revolting abominations and one of them is player's character.

Take example of other game dev.s, as ugly as their monters are one still does't vomit upon seeng 'em (well maybe master from first fallout looks a bit to bad, but he still got a way to go before even half reaching those children and their father-mother-mother-****er-u-know-the-drill-creature),and if u just want to make a scary game take example of doom 3 at it's max graphics (that's not mine example, as i never tryed that myself) or aliens vs. predator (i find it more startling then frightening, and even then not realy startling just on some rare ocasions, but some players find it realy scary).

Well turn's up I wasn't that close to finising as i assumed, ok then two more sentences. Originalyty isn't itself a path to sucess, it helps when there's a good idea behing that and a good realisation after that. I dont know about gameplay tricks u got up your sleeves and how'll they work, but as for games style and atmosphere (and one can't make that much different from game visual impression, not counting graphics quality ofcause) it' realy ... yes u guessed what i was going to say (i guess i don't have to repeat myself that many times).

pps if u're gona remove that offensive part (and i'm almost shure u will as i was exxesively breaking the rules up there ), atleast consider leaving non-offensive (or less offensive, depending on how u look at it) part intact, who knows, maybe there'll be some more gamers who agree with me, but woun't act so agressive, who can perhaps affect your point of view, as for me, I'm leaving this forum (not that I'd be allowed to stay after this post, but this is what I registered for - to attempt to stop this you-know-what), I just hope that what i've been saying here wount go ignored and that i woun't EVER have to see that creature-I-posted-a-link-to again

[Carlos Bordeu]

Hey... what's wrong with my Avatar? I think it's cute.

[*VeLeRoN*]

Hilarious review - I disagree with you though.

PS what don't you like about it - blue eyes, black mascara, hairy back -what more can you desire?

[gear5]

Long post there! I read most of it but the English wasn't that great.
Anyway, are you being serious? I thought at first you were joking but then I wasn't so sure because you started saying things that the Art Developer was twisted etc.
I know that you are in a minority though, most peoples reaction to Zeno Clash is not "How ugly! Hideous game, I must kill game devs"... Most people appreciate Zeno Clash for the originality and stylish graphics which is more and more difficult to come across these days as game companies are currently afraid to take big risks.

Anyway, I happen to find Father-Mother is beautiful and if you do not then Father-Mother will be sad and will say "Only Reianor doesn't love me".

Oh and by the way, I think it is pretty pointless to sign up to a forum then post negative comments in either a) the hope that the game developers will completely delete every graphic and start again or trolling the forums for entertainment? Pretty sad life if that is the case.

Just looking at that screen again is so beautiful and makes me want 4 testicles on my face. Well not quite, but it is stunning art.

[gear5]

Oh, btw I found this thread from the facebook message the developers sent out

[Reianor]

I was gona leave this forum but it turns out i forgot to close this page...
Yeah i know my english kinda [here goes a bad word u all know, so probably no reason to type it], especialy when typing so much, yet i've seen worse... far worse... let's hope most of u wount ever se it/hear it, especialy hear. But well, there i was thinking estetic senses don't get that strange. Anyway I wasn't realy serious when typing in most last answers, i expected a few jokers (if that's the right word to use) but to see that many of'em was a shock. It's good thing this forum isn't that poular (if i got that right, there's about 50 registered users at the moment including devs) to make for a decent statistic, or i'd probably become a fanatic and start protesting against anything weirder than an average human apearing in a game/video/book (it may seem different but i don't get such voilent reactions when looking at alien/aracnid/troll/drider/hmm v treant (and i don't know a living being that saw those treants and didn't consider'em ugly) and lots of other weirdos), even thou games about humans only are mostly, if not totaly, dull.
I agree there're usualy little/next to none chances that any devs'll change something that big about their game even if half of fans ask 'em to, but since they already changed game's engine once, i decided to make a desperate attempt, perhaps it's to naive of me, but that's the kind of person i am... And no I wasn't trolling for pleasure, my trolling was caused by frustration (not exactly frustration but i can't think of a better word), wich was caused by disgust, wich was caused by looking at at well-known-around-here-picture, wich was born by someones wild (and ,sorry for that, but imho - sick) imagination. Probably the best way to describe what i feel when looking at that creature is to compare that to what an old-fasioned and classicaly-oriented human feels when looking at a naked humonoid (imho the word human doesn't fit here) hermothrodite, and even than that's a weak comparision even if that's realy fat hermothrodite. U call that creature "cute"? PUUULEASE spare me. And yes I was heavily joking (if one can say so) when trolling out first part of my post, and a bit less when trolling out second part, or maybe even jesting, not shure which word is more appropriate, due to my english.
As for father-mother-no-this-time-i'm-not-continuing-the-description-cause-I-don't-wanna-offend-u-guys-any-more-then-I-already-did, i guess that makes two of us - me and Ghat, whom u're gona play as anyway since u seem to like the game, so good luck in killing that father-mother-can't-hold-myself-of-joking-in-it's-adress-but-still-trying-to-thou-most-likely-wount-be-able-to-hold-myself-on-the-next-occasion character , I could even consider doing so myself if not for my reactions to those I-cant-get-enougth-abusing-of creatures from this topic's most famouse picture, and their likings. And btw next time would u be so kind as to warn me (and other people with the same point of view, if there'll ever be any on this forum) about where your link points to? I decided there was no reason to link to it again and as a result had to look upon it againg (yes i'm trying not to scroll the page to high). U know this could have resulted in another huge portion of trolling from "not yours realy" , seeing it as an avatar is already a huge "inspiration" as it is (haven't been monkeying with profile settings much, so don't know if other people's avatars can be turned off) PUUULEAASE don't make me look at that again, or i may lose control and go on another "trolling spree". I know how offensive and unfriendly this sounds, but I REALY hope this game woun't get a wide spread, cause the world is SO much a nicer place this way. Damn it I'm about to troll again. Well atleast steam isn't realy popular around where i leave...
ps i used "not yours realy" not as offence it's just that i can't write "yours truly" to people who's estetic senses are so much different from mine, cause I truly dont seem to be yours.
Best regards - this topics first, most famose, and the only one so far troll. May u never encounter a dire troll with a heavy flamethrower May u still encounter lot's of constructive critics with point of view different to yours .

[Paroxysm]

It's my favourite creature design in the game so far

[Carlos Bordeu]

Ok... maybe if we make the mucalosaurus use some braces, straighten out those teeth and... err... well.. we really cannot chop the things hanging from his face (which I imagine is what makes you want to lose your lunch over your keyboard).

I guess you'll have to somehow skip that part if you play the game. Or maybe someone as disturbed as you will release an 'aesthetic-creatures' mod. However in my opinion the Mucalosaurus is hardly the most disturbing visual character in the game... So if you do take the risk and decide to play don't say I didn't warn you!

[gear5]

I really cannot understand what is so sick about this game? Just very interesting graphics.
If you are being serious, then you should probably seek therapy or something or at least turn off your internet connection because believe me, there are images lurking on the internet that make you want to gauge out your eyes.

I can understand the developers tolerating this thread, which is very good of them considering you are being very mean about their creative talents and a good game which they are working very hard on in order to make a good first impression as a game developer. But if it was up to me I would probably close your thread and/or ban you because you are being annoying with your "trolling" or "constructive criticism" as you call it.

[David C]

wich was born by someones wild (and ,sorry for that, but imho - sick) imagination.

I like the word wild, but I think I like the word savage [2] even more...

Yes, I would say we have a savage imagination, which actually makes me very proud

[Reianor]

Well, I didn't call my trolling constuctive, I was rather hoping that someone else with less offensive aproach then mine could change your opinion, but forget it, it's probably impossible...

As for internet's disturbing visuals I've seen some already and this one get's my vote as the most desturbing with probably mother-and-father-in-one-bottle-for-the-price-of-loosing-one-alredy-eaten-luch geting second place and most of other creatures from this game dominating the ledder.

And concerning therapy, well if this game EVER get's enouth adoring fans for me to decide that that's what a normal human taste is like, I'd rather become a hermit, then consider taking therapy, cause if that case I'd rather die then become a "normal human".

As for moding, don't flatter yourselves, from what I've seen and read this game's not worth that much moding, even if u create something like TES construction set (u should call it "ZC destruction set" cause that suits the game more, since that's what the game tryes to do with society's tastes and morale) with good documentation and an easy-to-use 3D-modeling and retexturing tools especialy for THIS game (not that others are hard to use for a decent moder, but still) and distribute 'em along with the game (I'm not into HL2 moding so I don't know what kind of tools HL2 devs made).

And about "creative tallent", as far as I know when people speak about art and tallent they speak about the ability to create something beatiful, or atleast plesant ,or at the very least not repulsive, which is nowhere near what devs are creating.

Dunno what u're proud about, I'd rather be ashamed of this, especialy since your imagination is drawing what it's drawing. And don't switch words on me, what I meant by "wild" is rather a combination of "untamed", "disheveled" and "untidy" (oh, and don't forget the "sick" part in brackets), now u go and switch that to "savage" (which alone is not that far after all) and then from there jump to "Noble savage" (as that's where your link goes), wich is a jump worthy of world's champion in distant jumps if he does it with entire-population-of-dinosaurs-in-a-number-It-is-belived-to-have-been-in-before-the-cataclysm-killing amount of doping, with no negative impact on his health. Besides "Noble savagery" has some tie's to nature after all, and your "mucalosaurus" and that father-mother-i'm-already-tired-of-jesting-about creature are both abominations of all things natural and even some things unnatural.

Actualy I myself wonder why I'm not yet banned and this topic still spoils your little "WOW! look what a beautiful mucalosaurus! you-know-who (yes, no jesting in it's adress from me this time, cause as I said I'm tired) must be proud of it!" idilia. Well there'll be no point in banning me arfter this post, appart from making example out of me, wich I don't think they'll do, since they haven't banned me after my last (first) two posts and thus ,i must admit, behave with more friendlyness (or is this tollerance, or maybe it's just forgot-the-word-but-someting-like-we-don't-care-to-ban-this-guy/troll/however-else-u'd-call-me thing) then my behavior actualy deserves. Maybe they consider me and my activities harmless and effectless (and they preaty much are, since, unfortunately for me and for humanity in a form It's been in for centuries, my words aren't gonna stop 'em)?

Well that's it mucalosaurus-loving people, this time I'll make shure to close this page and all the ones that eventualy led me to this game's forum, and even some of those that remind me about it (thank god, this game's not realy popular, so most likely I'll never encounter it again, and even if I do, I promise not to return here for the sake of all thing that are holy, unholy, or just not that twisted, for the sake of your troll-wounded-flaming-annoyed-"children"-loving-luckily-small-community, and for the sake of my lunch/breakfest/dinner/supper staying where it's supposed to be), so haleluya! no more looking at "mucalosaurus" for me, and no more trolling and anoyance from me for u. Now this is where i'd wish u all good luck/farewell/happy birthday/true love/fast (or at least slow, but more imporantly POSSIBLE) recovery, but i can't step over myself and do it without my trademark-for-this-forum trollish jesting/mocking and annoyance, some of wich I already let lose, and I kinda promissed not to do it anymore in my last sentense, so no goodbuys from me, sorry (and again, don't get me wrong I'm no way planning to return here).

[Carlos Bordeu]

Look what you did now... you made the poor Mucalosaurus cry...

"Please love me! It's not my fault I was born so ugly!"

[gear5]

Look what you did now... you made the poor Mucalosaurus cry...

"Please love me! It's not my fault I was born so ugly!"

oh no! At least Reianor says he has gone now.

I love you mucalosuarus!

[Paroxysm]

This thread confuses me.

[Foulek]

look his teeth... i can't accept this face, i'm gonna kill it when i see this face in front of me!

I find where you take the ingredient for make this creature
http://www.chez.com/psycoteamz/images/trident_2.jpg + http://www.chez.com/psycoteamz/images/bayrou.jpg + testicles = mucalosuarus

[Carlos Bordeu]

Mmmm... those links are dead

[Foulek]

that just 2 horrible faces... but i have THE original musca, where you got your inspiration! I've already seen something like musca somewhere:

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7006/1212863347144tp6.jpg



...i saw you smiled.

[*VeLeRoN*]

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7006/1212863347144tp6.jpg

Well, suffice it to say I'm more inclined now to think that some minor tweaks to mucalosuarus' design might be a good idea.

[Carlos Bordeu]

Hahaha... very ugly face... but that is not where the mucalosaurus got it's inspiration from. He was actually designed with no ugly faces in mind at all. The design comes from prehistoric mammals.

The mucalosaurus is a big animal (like a dinosaur), so its inspiration comes from real prehistoric creatures of the Cenozoic era. The strange things hanging on its head are just unusual details that came from my imagination.

As for the art style in general... it's not like we've been surfing around the net for ugly mutants or creatures to get inspiration. The game gets inspiration from medieval punk fantasy, the paintings of Bosch, etc. We have a very unique artistic direction for the project.

[Woland]

Hahaha... very ugly face... but that is not where the mucalosaurus got it's inspiration from. He was actually designed with no ugly faces in mind at all. The design comes from prehistoric mammals.

The mucalosaurus is a big animal (like a dinosaur), so its inspiration comes from real prehistoric creatures of the Cenozoic era. The strange things hanging on its head are just unusual details that came from my imagination.

As for the art style in general... it's not like we've been surfing around the net for ugly mutants or creatures to get inspiration. The game gets inspiration from medieval punk fantasy, the paintings of Bosch, etc. We have a very unique artistic direction for the project.

Woo! Bosch was one of the inspirations for this game! I thought he might be.

Go me!